Treating hirsutism: case #2
Many symptoms reoccurred after a month after quitting the program. Some positive signs remained.
Stress and drinking coffee had an effect on returning negative symptoms, when a break was taken from this program.
Benefits have returned since her program was restarted. Scalp hair loss wasn't as bad when the program was paused. Body hair lowered. Overall, bust size has increased from an AA or an A cup to a large B cup.
Her hips grew, and her bust size is a C cup. She took the teas for proliferative in late August, and skipped taking teas for luteal.
For previous entries, before she restarted her program, see hirsutism02-1.
Thistles isn't ideal for this phase, and she can't use hops. She will use breast massage to help alleviate menses should it become heavy.
For the first day of menses, she took a tea of 1 fenugreek seed, 1 sunflower seed, and minimal spearmint. This tea isn't ideal. Results were highly estrogenic. Menses was light and there were cramps. There was also negative mood.
On the second day of menses she took two teas. The amount of fenugreek gave more cravings for carbohydrates, likely because it lowers blood sugar.
The first tea [of the 2nd day] was of 3 fenugreek and about 6 sesame seeds, which was androgenic, but improved unwanted estrogenic symtpoms. Mood improved, and cramps resided. There was body heat around the breasts, and body temperature was 36.4°C.
For the second tea of the second day (or 3rd overall tea) of menses to balance those effects, she took a tea of 1 fenugreek seed 6 sesame seeds and 1 barley seed. From this there were positive signs. Mood is ok, and there was minor breast and hip growth. A tea with 1 fenugreek seed and a small amount of sesame seeds would have to be repeated whenever acne occurs during menses and the first day of proliferative.
On the third day, she took a tea of 1 fenugreek seed, 12 sesame seeds and 1 sunflower seed. Signs from this were extremely estrogenic, which often soon leads to body hair, after those effects pass.
Soon after this, she took a tea of 1 fenugreek seed and 6 sesame seeds, to balance these effects. There was growth from this by the next day. With each repetition of a fenugreek tea, when hops wasn't used at the beginning of this phase, menses temporarily increased, usually by the next day. Mood also goes from positive to negative, so massage is needed.
For the first dose of proliferative, she took a tea of: ½ fennel seed, 1 fenugreek seed, 1 sunflower seed, 1 barley seed, and 2 pea-sizes of sesame seed. Fennel can usually be left off of the first tea of proliferative. At first, up to a day later, body temperature increased, and there were no signs of growth. A caffeine drink and chocolate influenced this tea to not work as expected. A teaspoon of olive oil was taken to help negate the effects of chocolate and caffeine, while the effects of the tea were still present. Soon afterwards there was breast growth. Length continued to increase, while width maintained later.
The next day, she took a tea of: ½ fennel seed, 4 pea-sizes of sesame seed and 2 sunflower seeds. Caffeine interfered with this tea too, but once she took a teaspoon of olive oil, breast growth occurred.
For the third tea of proliferative, under the presense of the last tea, she took a tea of 1 pea-size of sesame seeds and 1 barley seed, and there was forward growth. Then, there was major bust and hip growth from a tea of: ½ fennel seed, 4 pea-sizes of sesame and 1 barley seed. Massage was needed because of headache. A teaspoon of olive oil was also needed with this.
From a tea of, ½ fennel seed and 4 pea-sizes of sesame seed, and a teaspoon of olive oil breast size grew. As barley or sunflower seed was missing from this, additional hip size growth was temporary.
From a tea of, ½ fennel seed, 2 barley seeds 6 pea-sizes of sesame seed, and taking a teaspoon of olive oil an hour later, breast length grew, and there was a headache. By the next day, breast width reduced, while length stayed.
Towards the end of proliferative phase, she took two teas (skipping about a day between each tea) including 1/2 fennel seed, 1 sunflower seed, and 2 pea-sizes of sesame seed. One of these teas had 1 additional barley seed, and both may have been taken with a teaspoon of olive oil on the side. From both of these teas, there was expected minor breast growth. She will take a break until secretory phase.
This time, a teaspoon of olive oil was used, with the first tea of: 1 fenugreek seed, 2 sunflower seeds, and about 60 sesame seeds. With this, there is an expected fluctuation. About 2 hours after the first tea, when there was breast swelling, a second tea of: ½ fennel seed, 2 sunflower seeds and 60 sesame seeds was taken without olive oil. This second tea was intended to allow growth to continue and to lessen fluctuations. There was growth from both of these teas, and there wasn't shrinking afterwards.
For another tea: ½ fennel seed, 2 sunflower seeds and 60 sesame seeds was taken with a teaspoon of olive oil. There was bust swelling from the first tea. A repetition of this tea, without a teaspoon of olive oil was taken late, the next day, and after headache occured. Breasts didn't shrink after this second tea. There was continuing swelling.
For proliferative, in theory, saw palmetto or a teaspoon of coconut oil can replace or be used with olive oil. Growth would have to be stabilized with the correct tea without olive oil, coconut oil or saw palmetto. The second tea has to be ready to take from 2 hours later to the next day, before shrinking or other signs can occur. To make this simple, make a tea not meant for the first dose, and drink half of it at a time: the first half with olive oil, and the second half without. Also, divide the teas, to minimize the amount of fennel used at a time even further. As long as the last correct tea was taken without olive oil, coconut oil, saw palmetto or another progestin herb, another tea doesn't have to be taken to preserve gains for this phase.
Taking a tea that had olive oil on the side, and missing the next tea without olive oil, caused menses to restart. Continuing the teas for proliferative this time.
For early secretory, there was minor growth from a tea of: 15 fenugreek seeds, 1 sunflower seed, 3 peasizes of sesame seed and a rice-size of thistles. An additional 1 tbsp of coconut oil and 1tbsp of olive oil was taken with this.
She will take a tea of: 1 sunflower, 10 sesame, and 5 fenugreek. Minimal thistles can be added to this, provided the amount of fenugreek is increased or another phytoprogesin herb is added.
Minor growth from that tea, and [there was] growth from similarly proportioned teas.
At a later time, too much sesame was suggested, and fenugreek amounts were high. Luteal phase ended early.
For the first day of next secretory, and also when there's acne for secretory, she will take a tea of about: 5 fenugreek seeds, 10 sesame seeds, and 1 barley or sunflower seeds. This tea will be taken up to twice a day. Thistles will be more limited to no more than once every 3 days, and only when there's acne. A tea of thistles will consist of 10 fenugreek seeds, a rice-grain size of thistles, 1 sunflower/barley seed and 10 sesame seeds.
Thistles will likely be omitted or the amount further reduced for late premenstrual phase.
For the start of next secretory phase, she will try a tea of: 5 fenugreek seeds, 10 sesame seeds and 1 sunflower seed. Thistles will be left out of this tea. She will repeat when she gets new acne, headache or negative mood throughout luteal. The duration when these signs may occur futher apart with each tea. Then, the amount of fenugreek may be increased a bit.