Botanical Breast Enhancement: Guide

Herbal breast enlargement program for luteal



Luteal phase consists of secretory and premenstrual phases. Transition from secretory to premenstrual isn't always obvious. Some herb combinations are meant to be taken for secretory phase. The rest of herbal combinations will be similar for late secretory and throughout premenstrual phase.

Metabolic foods, supplements and spices seemed to interfere with estrogen production, which has usually caused setbacks, including for this phase.

The program for anon08 for luteal phase is documented below. Results of doses is shown. The regular herb schedule has been updated.

See also, the programs: menses and proliferative.

Birth Control Pill use

The proliferative phase program applies to BCP (birth control pill) use. There's a possibility that the luteal phase herb schedule can apply later in the cycle. For additional details, see the herb program: BCP01.

Hip and butt growth

To focus on hips and reproductive health, omit sesame seed from teas that don't contain hops.

For hip and butt growth only: sesame could be omitted when hops isn't used. Tea with hops requires: 5 sunflower seeds, 3 fenugreek seeds, and 10 sesame seeds. Sesame seed needs to be minimal.

This herb schedule needs to be improved. Because of the body's ability to produce estrogen and progesterone during secretory, a herb schedule can be made ideal for both hip/butt growth and breast growth for this phase. Pay attention to hip growth and hormonal signs.

This luteal herb schedule for hip and butt growth is also the one of interest for hormone imbalances, including hirsutism. Keep track of body signs throughout.

Transitioning to secretory phase

When sesame and sunflower cause acne, instead of growth, it may mean it's secretory phase. If this occurs, first add minimal fenugreek seed, intended for the first doses of secretory phase:

  • 1 fenugreek seed
  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 10 sesame seeds
  • under 500mg of saw palmetto or wild yam
  • 1 tbsp of coconut or olive oil

Make sure it's secretory, by trying this three times during acne, not during bloating, to see that it works each time. Fenugreek works better when there's acne. If this one with added fenugreek doesn't work, you may still be on proliferative phase.

If the one with fenugreek works, a tea of the following including minimal hops can be used only once for all of secretory phase, when acne occurs:

  • rice-grain size of hops
  • 1 fenugreek seed
  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 10 sesame seeds
  • saw palmetto or wild yam
  • 1 tsp of coconut or olive oil

If acne doesn't occur during the first few days of secretory, move on to the next section.

After that, don't take hops anymore for the rest of this phase: it is only meant to be taken once for luteal phase. This tea is meant to be taken on any of the first few days. The first time it is used, it increases estrogen response, but repeating it interferes with estrogen response. Hops may delay the time for acne to occur by days. Possibly, depending on the body's composition.

Rest of secretory phase

The one for the rest of luteal can be followed, unless there's bloating, breast swelling, or when breasts are a pear/lightbulb shape: see section below. Fenugreek, saw palmetto, wild yam, olive oil and coconut oil must be omitted when these symptoms occur.


Up to once a day for secretory, preferably in the mornings, unless there's bloating, take:

  • 10 sesame seeds
  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 3 fenugreek seeds: contains diosgenin and phyto-estrogens
  • minimal saw palmetto or coconut/olive oil: for betasitosterol
  • minimal wild yam is optional for this phase: for diosgenin

For the rest of the day, go by signs.

It's better to take coconut or olive oil in addition to saw palmetto or wild yam. Any combination of these can be taken. It's better to increase the amount of saw palmetto and wild yam, gradually. Start off with smaller amounts of saw palmetto and wild yam, and increase them as breast or hip tissue increase. Continue with about the same amounts of olive or coconut oil with the morning dose, evening dose and whenever else possible.

Sesame amounts will remain minimal. If more sunflower is used for the daily schedule, for acne or bloating signs, you would immediately have to take the daily herb schedule as soon as estrogenic signs start to occur.

Variations of hops and thistles

For early secretory phase, after growth from a first dose, hops or thistles can be used once during acne with the rest of the recommendation for this. This is optional, or for use when androgenic signs are heavy. Hops and thistles requires minimal fenugreek, sesame and sunflower. Don't use hops and thistles at the same time, because estrogenic effects can be higher than expected.

  • 10 sesame seeds
  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 3 fenugreek seeds
  • minimal saw palmetto or wild yam
  • 1 tsp olive or coconut oil
  • minimal hops

Fenugreek works on ERβ as opposed to ERα, which it won't interfere too much with the effects of hops as long as there's acne and minimal sesame seed is used.

A hops barley drink could possibly be taken to replace hops and sunflower seed here. This was intended for 3 fenugreek seeds and 10 sesame seed to be eaten on the side with this. This would be the only time of the herb schedule where a hops/barley drink could be beneficial to the herb schedule. There's one other time, where a hops/barley drink could be used, but use there may not be reliable.

Minimal thistles can replace hops, if hops isn't available. Thistles requires minimal sunflower seed and fenugreek. After this, phyto-progestins including fenugreek use must be sustained. Avoid hops and thistles for this phase if any metabolic food will be used.

Theory on fennel

Fennel may want to be avoided for those with past hormone imbalances. The best time to use minimal fennel is when there's breast elongation during secretory phase. Avoid fennel for this phase if any metabolic food will be used.

Luteal phase by signs


Bloating is a different corticosteroid sign than acne. Breast swelling is also a different sign than breast widening. Also, a pear or light-bulb shape may also be considered breast swelling.

Every time bodily bloating or breast swelling occurs for secretory (and possibly premenstrual), the following can be eaten:

  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 10 sesame seeds

Saw palmetto and wild yam are omitted when there's bloating or breast swelling. Phytoprogestins consistently haven't worked during this occurrence. This recommendation is similar for other times of phases.

Once breast elongation occurs, or when bloating/swelling goes away, switch back to the regular schedule for the rest of luteal phase.


The one for acne, is similar to the one suggested for each morning. The one for mornings is largely interchangeable with the recommendation for when there's acne.

Every time acne occurs for secretory (and possibly premenstrual), the following can be eaten:

  • 10 sesame seeds
  • 5 sunflower seeds
  • 3 fenugreek seeds
  • minimal saw palmetto or wild yam
  • 1 tsp olive or coconut oil on occasion

Once acne goes away or when breast elongation occurs, switch back to the regular schedule for the rest of luteal phase. If bloating occurs, see the bloating section below.


The herb schedule is incomplete for when symptoms of premenstrual occur. A lot of premenstrual symptoms are consistent with when bloating occurs.

Don't use a daily herb schedule for premenstrual phase. Take herbs for luteal according to symptoms. Breast shape of a lightbulb or pear may be considered as breast swelling.

Theory use with thistles

Unsure about if thistles should be used with BCP.

While acne occurs during early secretory phase a tea can be taken of: 3 fenugreek seeds, a rice-grain size of thistles, 5 sunflower seeds, and 10 sesame seeds. This tea can replace the first tea which includes hops. In theory, this tea could be during acne days after a tea that includes hops. After this, hops and thistles can't be repeated for the rest of luteal phase. Fenugreek could possibly be avoided days after thistles use, possibly for the rest of luteal phase as well. Thistles' estrogenic effects last for days on ERβ, which the body starts producing estrogen. Thistles and hops should be avoided for premenstrual phase.

Then, return to the regular schedule for luteal phase.

If both thistles and hops are each used once during the same secretory phase, it could be more challenging to balance hormones. If thistles is used, estrogenic foods may have to be entirely avoided for the rest of this phase. Estrogenic foods include: soy sauce and oranges.

Possible topical use

Topical estrogen isn't recommended. Eating 1 fenugreek seed is safer, and better serves this purpose.

It may be better to not use topical oils or creams on the hips, because phytohormones would have to provide antagonism not only for the surface, but equally within the body for health.

Avoid topical oils for premenstrual phase of luteal. Topical use would only be limited to secretory phase, after the first tea causes breast swelling. Oils would have to be used for the same signs that either edible progestins or lignans are used. Temperature of lower and upper body would have to be monitored, to see if it stays. Signs of hips and bust must be observed, and that they aren't only fluctuations. Stop using topicals, when there are signs of acne and bloating, then revert to a proven herb schedule when you're certain it is this phase and of hormonal signs.

Topical flaxseed oil can possibly be used on the bust when there's breast widening during secretory phase only.

Unrefined olive or coconut oil can possibly be used topically on the bust when there's breast elongation for this phase.


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