Botanical Breast Enhancement: Guide

Programs journal

Proliferative phase: first doses adjustment

For the first doses taken for proliferative, when there's no swelling/bloating, take: a primarily phyto-progestin with 4 sunflower and 4 sesame seeds. Alternatively, this could be adjusted to a primarily phyto-progestin with 2 sunflower and 2 sesame seeds. This is for the first dose of proliferative, which can be before mucus starts, or can be any of the first doses of the phase throughout proliferative. It can also be taken after mucus starts for this phase. 5 minutes later, continue to take primarily phyto-progestin until there's growth or symptoms. The recommendations for phyto-progestin are for when there's no swelling. If there's swelling, take that recommendation instead, regardless of when during proliferative phase it is. Primarily phyto-progestin includes: coconut oil, saw palmetto, walnut, olive oil, wild yam powder. Minimal fennel also functions as a primarily phyto-progestin, though it should be limited to minimal amounts when after mucus starts or during luteal when there's no swelling. Perhaps fennel could be avoided for those with a past history of hormonal imbalances.

Breast swelling puffiness and bloating

With the current herb schedule for swelling, a limited amount of sunflower could be taken at a time for lowering any bodily swelling or bloating. 6 to 7 sunflower seeds can definitely be taken every 10 minutes for both proliferative and luteal phases, for swelling. In a past herb schedule which needs to be reverified, 14 sunflower seeds could be taken every 10 minutes for proliferative phase to lower swelling. It also needs to be reverified if sunflower can be taken closer together to 5 minutes apart, which may have worked before. Taking more sunflower much sooner causes the next phase to occur. The old parts of the herb schedule need to be reverified. Then, swelling is a common occurence, which is difficult to lower, so there needs to be a quicker way to reduce swelling. The next theory, which hasnt been verified is adding 5 to 10 sesame seeds to a larger amount of sunflower seed at a time, to lower swelling.

Lastest chart needs minor correction on progestin amounts

The latest herb schedule chart needs a correction on progestin amounts for not swelling and when hips or upper body aren't hot. From the previous chart, two parts were combined and left in for the updated chart. This herb chart is correct to use progestins, but it's better to spread out a smaller amount of progestins than to take a lot at once. A lot of progestins can also work for that part of the schedule, depending on how well your body responds to it.

Theory on phytoestrogens and ER-beta lignans

This theory is of when phytoestrogens are raised, the amount of sunflower or pumpkin seed can be raised. These may need to be raised proportionally together. A phytoprogestin is still required with it This is for when there's no swelling during luteal.

Premenstrual swelling

The recommendation for swelling with varying symptoms for premenstrual has to be simplified again to only using 10 sunflower seeds at a time, no sooner than every 30 minutes to an hour. Swelling may stay for a long time, but it's the most certain and sure way. Minimal sesame of 5 seeds was in a previous herb schedule, to be used with sunflower. While adding 5 seeds to sunflower seemed to prolong luteal phase and it allows more sunflower to be used; uncertain of the effects of estrogen response on the breasts by adding sesame while there's swelling. The best schedule for premenstrual may require lowering or preventing swelling before the amount of swelling gets too high. If swelling gets excessively high, accept swelling, and slowly use limited sunflower at a time to gradually lower it as much as possible, and aim for keeping more gains than potential losses after swelling subsides by next menses.


In these programs, antagonists are needed in small amounts. However, this term isn't clear for new users. An antagonist is a requires response to a hormone receptor or hormone presense. Antagonist means against, but it's still needed in small amounts. In these programs, when antagonists are present in smaller amounts than the desired hormone response, it multiplies the effect of the agonist or other hormone. Lignans are antagonists to estrogen receptors and estrogen effects. Lignans can also multiply the effects of androgens or estrogens, and there's two types of estrogen responses, of Estrogen Receptor Alpha (ER-alpha) responsible for breast growth) and Estrogen Receptor Beta (ER-beta) responsible for hip growth. The receptors for hormone are important for reproductive function and health in other parts of the body too, but for simplicity, the effects on those body parts was mentioned. Aside from the multiplying effects of other hormones, lignans perhaps provide their own response, and in theory, this could be a corticosteroid effect. Estrogens are antagonists of progestin effects and progestin receptors.

Armpit temperature

Armpit temperature and forehead temperatures are ways of indicating temperature changes associated with hormones starting at the breasts. Wamness was used as a previous description. For lack of a better and clear term, and to give a little better description heat, hotness or another form of hot will be used to describe higher armpit temperature.

Hops use

Use of hops still has to be figured out. There was one combination which was causing growth, but it may have been causing a receeding hairline. First, get better at using the regular schedule without hops. In theory, hops needs 5 sesame seeds, a progestin, a large amount of primarily progestin, and lavender, but then a primarily progestin may still have to be taken continuously. So, in this theory, hops can't be taken in the evening, because its use would have to be monitored, and primarily progestins may still have to be taken. If you've had a hormone imbalance, don't try hops. What is still certain, is that hops still can't be used during proliferative phase.

Swelling: theory on lowering it faster

Before, 8 to 10 sunflower or pumpkin seeds had to be used at a time, no sooner than every 30 minutes to lower swelling. Taking more at once, often caused menses or luteal to start. Progestins and estrogens can't be taken when there's swelling. The theory is to use 5 sesame or flaxseeds, and to increase the amount of pumpkin/sunflower seed that can be used at once, to lower swelling.

Theory of Sarsaparilla use

Sarsaparilla (Smilax) contains steroidal saponins and sitosterols which are both classes of phytoprogestins. Normally, it could cause an increase in body hair. However, if timed according to symptoms, it could theoretically add to breast and hip growth. It could likely be used when fenugreek can be used during luteal, and there's a possibility of it being useful when primarily progestins can be used.

Flax properties/effects

Whole flax seed could possibly be a replacement for sesame, as it could possibly contain enough of the same properties. This is still yet to be confirmed. Flax hasn't worked as expected similarly to sunflower and/or pumpkin seed.


The part of the herb schedule for premenstrual that is common than with other parts of the herb schedule is the recommendation for breast/bodily swelling. To take 8 sunflower seeds often, but no sooner than every hour. The recommendation for 5 sesame and 15 sunflower is still needed for certain signs, and is still used sporadically, but the result varies than that of the rest of luteal phase.

Theory for truely simplified herb program

This is a theory for a simplified herb schedule. For nonmenses, to take 1 sunflower seed and a minimal amount of primarily progestin once a day, unless there's symptoms of swelling or armpit warmth. When there's swelling, to take 8 sunflower seeds often, but no sooner than every hour. When there's breast tingling or acne, to check for armpit warmth. Only when there's armpit warmth, to include 5 sesame seeds and 15 sunflower seeds only once. Whether to add a pinch of primarily progestin depends on if it's proliferative or secretory phase. If taking 5 sesame and 15 sunflower seeds results in more acne, it means it's luteal phase. Repeat 5 sesame and 15 sunflower only once, but add a pinch of primarily progestin for secretory phase. After this and armpits cool down, revert back to the herb schedule immediately, even if it means repeating 1 sunflower and a pinch of primarily progestin for the day. 1 sunflower and a pinch of primarily progestin could be repeated again, and it may need to be repeated in the day depending on other symptoms. The suggestion for premenstrual phase and armpit warmth isn't determined. This is the best preview for a theory on simplified herb use for now. The parts about symptoms are already working in practice. This theory schedule, which parts of it work in practice, needs to be verified for efficacy.

Final pieces of herb program: how to get macromastia

Here are the final parts of the herb schedule, and these recommendations are for when there's no breast nor bodily swelling. When there's estrogenic signs and when breasts are cool (hips are likely to be cool too at this time, and should be cool as well), you can eat plenty of primarily phtyo-progestins for both proliferative phase and luteal phase. There's certain signs that indicate to check for breast warmth, including breast tingling, breast soreness, headache, estrogenic signs, acne, or premenstrual signs. When those occur, take 15 sunflower and 5 sesame, then 3 minutes later, take the recommendation for swelling or no swelling. That's important to take the recommendation as soon as breast coolness occurs or 3 minutes later. The last piece to the puzzle is optional and only for luteal phase when there's no swelling, it's to take, a minimal amount of hops, any progestin and plenty of sunflower or sunflower substitute, such as lavender. There's no sesame with this, unless you want to see if you can compensate for when breasts are cool.

Simplified herb schedule: any of warm hips, cool breasts

There's two current suggestions in the herb program for different signs in the simplified program which are for proliferative and luteal, when hips are cool and/or breasts are warm: one is for any bodily swelling and the other is for no swelling. These parts work consistently. The herb schedule for these temperature signs and no swelling is of 3 sunflower seed and primarily phytoprogestin. The herb schedule for swelling and these temperature indications is of 8 sunflower seeds no sooner than every hour, until swelling goes away and there's some indication of hip growth or breast elongation. Once that happens, sunflower or its substitutes won't cause growth any more. So, the recommendation for no swelling is needed once hip growth or breast elongation occur.

Simplifications for swelling or no swelling

The simplifications will be for varying signs that include breast coolness and/or hip warmness. For any of those temperatures, there's different recommendation for swelling and no swelling. For swelling, use 8 sunflower seed at a time, no sooner than every hour, until this symptom goes away. For no swelling, use primarily progestins and minimal sunflower.

Herb schedule is going to be simplified again

Going to make an update soon to further simplify the herb schedule. It's going to be based on the same principles of the previous revisions.

Theory on areola and nipple temporary increase

In a few programs, swelling and bloating were typical. As for hirsutism05, swelling has been lowered on the program. She still have nipple and areola puffiness. For this and other programs, including offline ones, there's a possibility that this is nipple and areola hardness due to arousal.

Updates for recent improvements to herb schedule: late August, 2022

One update is to remove the use of sunflower or equivalents for when there's estrogenic symptoms on upper and lower body. To use primarily progestin herbs when this occurs. Depending on phase, fenugreek-like herbs can be used there too. Another update is to increase the amount of primarily phytoprogestin used at a time when there's no swelling. Another important update, is that any time hips are warm to leave out sesame seed, no matter of many other signs. There may be exceptions for some symptoms. These haven't reached the simplified herb schedule yet.

August herb schedule update: simplifying

For swelling, and for no symptoms, the herb schedule will be simplified for proliferative phase, luteal phases and BCP proliferative-like phase. When swelling occurs during these phases, 8 sunflower seed can be taken no sooner than once every hour. For some, depending on body composition, they may be able to take up to 15 sunflower seeds no sooner than every hour. Usually, 15 sunflower seeds works more consistently during proliferative phase than luteal phase for swelling/bloating, but 8 seeds at a time is a better amount to use for both phases. If it's the first dose of proliferative, then a smaller amount of sunflower may be needed. For when there's estrogenic signs or no swelling, for both proliferative and luteal phases: 8 sunflower seeds, and a phytoprogestogenic but not heavily estrogenic herb or food can be used with it. The amount of sunflower can be adjusted to between 5 and 10 seeds, as to use an amount that doesn't cause swelling or noticeable swelling with it. A phytoprogestin containing but not significantly phyto-estrogenic herb or food, for instance, is one such as: walnuts, peanuts, saw palmetto, wild yam powder, olive oil or coconut oil. Fenugreek has phytoprogestins, but it also contains phytoestrogens, so it will be limited to luteal. It can work during the first dose for when there's not swelling of proliferative, but other progestins work better and more consistently for that and throughout proliferative phase. There are other similar herbs to fenugeek, such as shatavari, though they should be limited to outside of proliferative phase. Another herb that can't be used for proliferative at all, but could be used for luteal depending on signs is hops. Hops use still isn't fully determined for luteal phase. Still need to determine whether this can be taken through ovulation or the transition between proliferative and luteal phases. As for other signs, such as acne, tingling, and premenstrual symptoms, there's still major differences or parts of the herb schedule not resolved in the herb schedules for both proliferative and luteal phases.

Luteal: trying minimal hops again with herb combination

During luteal phase, when there was acne or no swelling, a rice size of hops to 8 sunflower seed, 5 sesame seed, and a reasonable amount of phytoprogestin was tried. The phytoprogestin was any combination of: walnuts, peanuts, wild yam powder, saw palmetto, olive oil or coconut oil. This combination didn't work, as acne started and breasts got warmer, while hips were cool. Needed to revert to combination without hops or fenugreek, a few hours later.

Apples for dietary fiber and to lower symptoms of excess hormones

Will see about apples for reducing swelling and bloating during menses. It has dietary fiber, and doesn't seem to interfere hormonally with the body. Apples have lowered acne consistently in the past.

August herb schedule updates

The amount of sunflower seed to be used together with a phytoprogestin will be reduced to 5 to 10 seeds, as this reduces swelling. Now there's less that has to be compensated for after taking a phytoprogestin. Sunflower will continue to be used to lower swelling, but the amount and timing may be adjusted only for simplicity. Walnuts and peanuts can be used as phytoprogestin substitutes for olive oil, coconut oil, saw palmetto, and wild yam powder. With using these seeds, other food products and herbs, there's now more commonality between the herb schedule for proliferative phase and for luteal phase. However, there's seeds and herbs that can be taken for luteal, that can't be taken for proliferative phase. There's also more variations in what to take for acne during luteal phase than proliferative phase.

Nipple puffiness

Need to see if milk production could be mistaken for nipple or areola puffiness. This could apply to the program hirsutism05. While she had a history of swelling/bloating, and later nipple puffiness that stayed, the incidences of bodily swelling lowered and her hips have grown. Still need to see.

Pumpkin Angel's NBE program

Pumpkin Angel's starting a herb program. Starting: 38DD; 35" bandsize; 42" overbust; less fullness on upper part of breasts; 45" hips; 31" waist; history of heavy menses and brown spotting; on Skyla IUD. The picture on the right is a starting picture on August 2, 2022. She's in her early 20's. Goal: H cup and fullness; ok if hips increase; improve hormone balance; to make menses of lighter intensity and to reduce brown spotting.

Hirsutism05: update, August 1

Breast puffiness keeps coming back for her, periodically, perhaps over an hour or so. When puffiness goes away, upper body temperature lowers. She mentioned that she had symptoms, which may have been estrogenic.

Walnut use during proliferative

This is of case #1 from the hirsutism-topic page for proliferative phase. 1 walnut and 15 sunflower seeds, when there were no signs, then using the rest of the recommendation of 15 sunflower seeds at a time to lower swelling, caused growth. When less sunflower, of 10 seeds, was used with walnut, it [still] caused swelling, which was compensated for with 10 to 20 sunflower seeds no sooner than every hour.

Hirsutism program

This hirsutism program doesn't have its own program page, but it's mentioned on the hirsutism-topic page. For luteal phase, walnut worked successfully as a substitute for saw palmetto, olive oil, coconut oil and powdered wild yam. Uncertain if walnut will be a substitute for these phytoprogrestings during proliferative phase. She'll try walnut in place of other phytoprogestins for proliferative phase. Walnut is still not a substitute for fenugreek for luteal, so 1 fenugreek seed is still needed there.

Hirsutism05 July update

Her hips have increased 6.5cm from 86cm to 92.5cm from April until now. That's an increase of 6.5cm (2.56"). She's on luteal phase now. In the past, taking 15 to 20 sunflower seeds at a time, no sooner than once per hour caused menses to restart. This time, she'll take less sunflower seed at a time. She'll take 5 sunflower seeds for every hour that there's swelling, nipple puffiness or bloating. With fenugreek, she may take 10 sunflower seeds with it. She'll only add 5 sesame to 1 fenugreek seed and sunflower seed when there's breast warmth, which she'll look for when there's acne or potential premenstrual symptoms.

Hip warmth

When hips are warm, avoid sesame, regardless of other signs. There may not be acne, or swelling when this occurs. Breasts can be warm as well. Still avoid sesame. Sunflower is needed when hips are warm. It could be with or without 1 fenugreek seed, depending on signs.

Heavy menses

She had heavy menses for this phase. She tried 1 fenugreek seed and 1 sunflower seed twice, but this didn't lower it for her. She mentioned that breasts and upper body were warm, so, she tried: 1 fenugreek seed, 1 sunflower seed and 2 sesame seeds. Results: menses stayed heavy. Hips shrank from repeating fenugreek. Potential adjustments: Fenugreek is intended to be taken no more than once for menses. Sesame is to be avoided when hips are warm. Update: uncertain would work work herbally in this specific situation. Perhaps breast massage should be used. She's now in proliferative phase, where the herb schedule is consistent for more people. Update 2: her hips grew so far from the typical herb schedule of proliferative phase.

Hirsutism, but balanced hormones

When temperature of upper body was warm [during luteal], 1 fenugreek seed, 15 sunflower seeds and 5 sesame seeds balanced hormones, and lowered upper body temperature for her. Lowering sesame to three seeds didn't seem to have this positive effect.

Start of Journal

Entries before July 13, 2022 are related to programs and herb schedule carried over from the main blog. These are carried over to be viewed here, because they're relevant to the herb schedule.

Sunflower amounts

While a consistent amount of sunflower works for more people during proliferative phase, the amounts for luteal may need to be adjusted, depending on person. For proliferative phase, when there's swelling, 20 sunflower seeds at a time works consistently. This amount may be lowered to 15 sunflower seeds at a time. However, during luteal, 20 sunflower seeds when there's swelling doesn't work consistently for everyone. For luteal phase, the amount has to be lowered. If a dose with sesame is being used, then, that amount has to be about proportionally lowered too.

Lowering sesame

5 sesame may work more slowly than 10 sesame seeds, but it may be a better amount to use with the recommended other herbs for proliferative or luteal, when there's specific signs. Signs of basic breast and hip temperature can be checked for more easily. Less sesame may provide better progestin balance, and less conflicting balance of estrogen receptors between ER-alpha and ER-beta. Now, the first sign to look for isn't immediate breast growth. There's indicating signs which mean to check breasts and hips for warmness or coolness. The herb combinations which include sunflower and sesame are like a reset of hormone balance for the phases, when applicable. This is working so far for luteal, but it needs to be confirmed for proliferative.

State of herb schedule

The herb schedule for menses works for its purposes of normalizing menstruation. Proliferative phase works well, and is consistent for more people. The herb schedules for menses and proliferative are simplified and improved. Luteal phase still needs work. If you have a hormone imbalance, the schedule for luteal isn't ready. Use only the parts of the schedule for luteal, which you know work well for you.

Luteal: variant herb schedules

There will be variant herb programs for luteal phase, that vary more than by herb substitutes. The most basic herb schedule will be similar to that of for proliferative phase. It will be limited to depending when they're called for: fenugreek, sunflower, sesame and substitutes of these. This will be used to focus on balanced estrogen response, while just maintaining progestin for the phase. This one is recommended for those with a history of hormone imbalances. Other variants of the herb schedule for luteal will look at using sesame more often and hops. Another variant which will be looked at is adding more phytoprogestin herbs. Other variants like using minimal clover or thistles will be focused on at a future time, and these will be used for those who really want to use these. Minimal fennel seed use will be somewhere between this. For all variants of luteal, sunflower or a substitute will gradually be used to lower any bodily swelling and create a balanced estrogen response.

Proliferative: breast warmth and sesame

When there's breast tingling, feel upper body of breasts, forehead and armpits if they're warm. If they're warm, the theory is to take 20 sunflower seed and 10 sesame seed once. This may not be needed, because attempting to correct acne often covers this. The need for sesame is also reduced due to balanced hormones which reduce the occurrence of acne and breast warmth. Use of sesame applies to luteal too, however with a slightly more complex herb schedule. Sesame is limited to 10 seeds and always needs 20 sunflower seeds, whenever it's used for proliferative and luteal.

Menses herb schedule simplified

The herb program for menses was simplified and improved. This phase no longer has a different recommendation for the start of the phase and for the rest of the phase. It goes by signs now, of if there's heavy menses or brown spotting, to reduce these any time they are present. There's other signs that occur, but the theories for those aren't as tested.

Composite01: programs

Composite of programs without BCP use.

Appendix: about breast swelling and bodily bloating

About swelling and bloating. Pictures for identifying breast swelling. That breast swelling has been mistaken for growth. Breast swelling and bodily bloating have to be gradually lowered.

Proliferative phase June 2022 update

The herb schedule for proliferative phase has been updated. This is more consistent. For those with swelling/puffiness or bloating, these symptoms have been reduced. Also, body hair has lessened more consistently for those who have it. Please leave a response if you want to tell that this works for you.

Proliferative phase update

Some have a common occurence of areola/nipple puffiness and swelling. Improvements need to be made to the herb schedule to compensate for this. These will be about the amount of sunflower seed at a time, and about simplified timing based on signs. For simplifying the proliferative phase herb schedule for when there's swelling, the suggestion is eat up to 35 sunflower seeds at once, but afterwards, no more than 20 sunflower seeds in an hour until puffiness/swelling goes away or until hip growth occurs. Then, for those who breast puffiness or swelling is a common occurence, to continue by taking 10 to 20 sunflower seeds at a time (no more often than once an hour) until breast growth occurs. After this, the herb schedule can be reverted to.

Luteal: amounts and proportions to use

For luteal, no more than 1/2 handful of sunflower should be taken at a time. When sesame is used, the amount can be increased. When to take these amounts of sunflower depends on when there's swelling or if it's used with fenugreek. For shatavari use, the amount of sunflower may have to be lower. In this theory, sunflower amounts will be lowered when used with either shatavari or fenugreek. When there's swelling/bloating, sunflower seed can remain at up to 1/2 handful hours apart, though a lower and determined amount will be suggested of 30 sunflower seeds. Sesame seed may be used, but the amount may be lowered to 3 to 5 seeds for this phase only. Sesame can be omitted when fenugreek is used. Unsure if it should be ommitted when shatavari is used.

Sesame seed use

Sesame is suggested only at times for when there's acne, and perhaps for certain conditions during luteal. Its use always requires a varying but limited amount up to 1/2 handful of sunflower seed. For proliferative or menses, the purpose would be to only to reduce acne, then revert to the rest of the herb schedule. During luteal phase, fenugreek use reduces acne during its occurence. When minimal sesame seed is used during luteal, there seems to be tolerance for more sunflower at a time that can be used during that phase, when used with 1 fenugreek seed. However, it's uncertain if this is balanced growth made possible because of the presence of progesterone production during luteal, or if using sesame causes reduced effects of estrogen. The amount of sesame to use for proliferative when there's acne, will remain at about 10 seeds, as this amount may be required to provide the right amount of balanced response. For menses and when there's acne, uncertain whether to decrease the amount of sesame seed to 3 to 5 seeds or leave them to about 10 seeds.

Breast massage, about

Gentle breast massage seems to lower estrogenic response, and keep androgenic response present when used during menses and proliferative phases. Breast massage can be used during menses to help lower heavy menses and cramps. For proliferative phase, when unwanted excess estrogenic signs or arousal become present, use the herb schedule. If the herbs needed aren't available for proliferative, gentle breast massage can be resorted to for purposes of decreasing excess arousal and for lowering cramps. Gentle breast massage can be used during luteal phase, because during this phase the body is more capable of balancing hormones.

Sunflower seed use

Sunflower amounts shouldn't exceed 1/2 handful at a time for proliferative and menses. Under normal circumstances, sunflower shouldn't exceed 1/2 handful for luteal either. Sunflower amounts will stay at 1/2 handful for luteal anyway, for a more consistent herb schedule, and to focus on limiting swelling/bloating with other adjustments that otherwise allow more sunflower to be used. For menses, only 1 sunflower seed at a time is suggested. For other phases, specific amounts are needed based on signs.

Vitamin C

Vitamin C supplements up to 750mg can be taken about daily (Tolerable Upper Intake Limit is 1,200mg). Tablets of larger amounts can be split into smaller pieces. Vitamin C is the only vitamin recommended to be taken daily, in large part, because it's water soluble, isn't metabolic, and doesn't have the problems of synthetic vitamins. Vitamin C is good for reducing bloating and protecting from oxidative stress. While vitamin C works better with Vitamin E, it's better to get Vitamin E from foods. For B vitamins, except vitamin B12, eat potatoes. The nutritional content of potatoes counters the metabolic properties of its B vitamins. Vitamin B12 comes from dairy, eggs, meat or supplements.

Hirsutism topic

Hirsutism05 is the current hirsutism program. Hirsutism programs 1 through 4 are archival. There are a few current offline programs: for most, hirsutism has lowered. For one person, inverted nipple was also corrected.

Breast swelling/puffiness and bloating

Breast swelling and puffiness, and bodily bloating isn't real growth. It's associated with corticosteriod hormones that break down tissue. Often, after there's breast swelling or puffiness, a shrinkage will occur. Vitamin C supplements, drinking half a cup of water and varying sunflower seed can be used to help preserve gains and to reduce the amount of potential shrinkage. The amount of sunflower up to use, up to 1/2 handful per several hours, varies by phase. Also, avoid phyto-progestins and phyto-estrogens when there's swelling or bloating.

Proliferative herb schedule improved

The herb schedule for proliferative phase has been simplified and nearly perfected. Uses are based on the first dose, then when are based on symptoms, and for when there's no signs. There's a necessary adjustment based on if there's breast swelling or bloating at the beginning of this phase. Results from this herb schedule are expected to be consistent. This updated herb schedule also reduced hirsutism symptoms for a few women without noticeable negative effects. It has also improved inverted nipple for one person, so far.

Herbs with primarily phytoprogestin properties

Herbs and edible oils that contain phytoprogestins, and aren't estrogenic include: wild yam, saw palmetto, olive oil and coconut oil. Fennel is also in this category, but it contains other phyto-hormones that seem to affect LH or FSH or promote menstruation. Black seed (Nigella sativa) has similar phytohormones to fennel.

Start a program

Happy to start personal programs for anyone for treating hirsutism, for lowering heavy menses, for hormone balance, for hip growth, and for breast enlargement. Pictures not necessary, but welcome. Please use the contact form. So far, symptoms of hirsutism has been consistently improved.

Hip growth; hormone balance

Focus needs to be prioritized to reproductive health and hip growth. Breast growth should be secondary to this. It's difficult to solely focus on breast growth without taking into account of hip growth. Temporary growth and swelling have been misleading before, as additional hormonal effects occur after this. Breasts are capable of producing estrogen, which can interfere with hip growth, and with estrogen sensitivity of the reproductive tract. For menses and proliferative phases, minimal amounts of herbs/seeds will be used mainly for improving hormone symptoms. Sesame's use will be adjusted. Hops and thistle need to be limited to luteal phase, when there's acne.

Fat soluble vitamins

Fat soluble vitamins concentrate where they are digested or used. Use fat soluble vitamin supplements less often, perhaps no more than twice a week. Fat soluble vitamins include A, E, D and K. Vitamin C can be used daily because it is water soluble.


Picture of growth for Anon08 for May.

Progesterone balance

In these programs, estrogenic response from the hips and breasts seem to interfere with each other. At first, there will be growth, then there will be fluctuations as each produce estrogen that interferes. High amounts of sunflower and sesame are useful for when estrogen response is not high enough, such as when there's acne, or for the first doses of proliferative or secretory phases. The balance should be more towards progesterone, enough estrogen, and some androgens. When there's more body tissue to convert androgens into estrogens, less sunflower and sesame are needed. Higher amounts of sunflower and sesame are needed to kickstart estrogen production, when there's too much hormones for the body to convert. There should be enough progesterone, and the right amount of conversion for estrogen balance.

NBE guide

Basic guide, and pointers to get started with botanical breast enlargement: how to make tea, avoiding metabolic edibles, updated herbal breast enhancement programs. This also contains important information for those who are already on a breast enhancement program. There's information on: hirsutism, hip growth, massage and topicals.

Topical use

Avoid using topicals (phyto-progestins, phyto-estrogens and lignans) on the hip area, as the effects on the surface may under-represent hormonal effects on the reproductive tract. Normally when hips grow, it's expected to be representative of reproductive health. Through dietary means, the effects of herbs are expected to provide the same effects on ER-beta whether on the reproductive tract or hips. Topicals can still be used on the bust, because it's farther away, and the hormonal effects are expected to be the same throughout on the lower body. Topical use, should also be limited to secretory phase, and be used complementary to the herb schedule.

Breast Development and Endocrinology, 3rd Ed

Expanded and clarified details for Breast Development and Endocrinology 3rd edition. From now on, this will be volume 1. These edits will reflect in Super Bazongas. Herb schedule will be edited, but same herb combinations will be used as basis. Future releases of Super Bazongas will be volume 2.