Herbal breast enlargement program for luteal
Program
Luteal phase consists of secretory and premenstrual phases.
Metabolic foods, supplements and spices seemed to interfere with estrogen production, which has usually caused setbacks, including for this phase.
See also, the programs: menses and proliferative. For a simplified herb schedule based on symptoms of swelling for outside of menses, see: nonmenses.
Birth Control Pill use
The proliferative phase program applies to BCP (birth control pill) use after menses stops. Depending on the results when taking sunflower, the luteal phase herb schedule can apply later in the cycle. For additional details, see the herb program: BCP01.
Hip and butt growth
This herb schedule is being improved. Because of the body's ability to produce estrogen and progesterone during secretory, hip growth is expected to be a secondary effect. Pay attention to chart that hip growth is consistent and monitor hormonal signs.
Summary
While, the nonmenses herb schedule can be used for many symptoms, this herb schedule is needed for specific symptoms such as for acne during luteal. This recommendation differs for that of acne for proliferative phase.
Substitutions and herbs/foods listed as primarily phyto-progestins are in later sections of this page and on its own page. There's a section below on foods/herbs to avoid for proliferative phase as well: this includes metabolic foods and strongly phyto-estrogenic foods/herbs.
Transitioning to luteal phase
When sunflower causes acne, instead of growth, it may mean it's the very beginning of secretory phase. If this occurs, first add minimal fenugreek seed, intended for the first doses of secretory phase:
- 1 fenugreek seed
Make sure it's secretory, by trying this up to three times during acne, to see that it works each time. Fenugreek works better when there's acne. If this one with added fenugreek doesn't work, you may still be on proliferative phase.
Luteal phase by signs
After each of these, wait for the results, before taking another one.
When there's no swelling/bloating/Puffiness nor Acne
When there's no bloating, breast swelling or acne during luteal, take:
- Any palatable amount of a predominatly phytoprogestin: olive oil, coconut, saw palmetto, wild yam powder, and/or walnuts
- A minimum of 1 fenugreek seed is optional
Foods and herbs used must be natural and unrefined, such as olive oil. Dietary fiber is also recommended.
This can also be taken when estrogenic signs begin, or an estimated time before this occurs. Take this especially when breast elongation, cramps, or headache occur, as these are estrogenic symptoms. Negative mood is sometimes an estrogenic symptom.
As long as there's no swelling or acne, take primarily phytoprogestin to have a reserve of progestin/progestogen in the body. For luteal (and nonmenses overall), taking primarily phytoprogestin is also done in anticipation of estrogenic symptoms.
Swelling/bloating/Puffiness
Swelling needs to be reduced, because it isn't real growth and it causes potential for shrinking. Swelling also can carry into menses phase. A pear or light-bulb shape may also be considered breast swelling. To identify breast and bodily swelling, see swelling-bloating. Breast swelling includes puffiness.
Every time bodily bloating or breast swelling occurs for secretory and likely premenstrual, the following can be taken, no sooner than 5 minutes at a time:
- 6 sunflower seeds
Breast swelling is also a different sign than breast widening. However, carry on with 7 sunflower seeds at a time, until the estimated time before estrogenic signs begin. When breast elongation occurs, that's not due to swelling, take the recommendation for when there's no signs.
When bloating or swelling occurs, phytoprogestins and phytoestrogens must be avoided.
Phytoprogestins: saw palmetto, wild yam, olive oil, coconut oil. Phytoprogestins and phytoestrogens: fenugreek, shatavari. Phytoestrogens: hops, thistles, clover, soy.
Estrogenic signs
Excessive estrogenic signs during secretory phase are less likely to occur, but if they occur, they are likely to be temporary, because the body will attempt to balance it with production of progestins during secretory. Estrogenic signs may occur more often during premenstrual phase. When estrogenic signs occur during luteal phase (secretory and premenstrual included), eat:
- primarily phyto-progestin: walnut, saw palmetto, coconut oil, unrefined olive oil
Acne
When acne occurs, the following can be eaten once:
- 1 fenugreek seed or minimal fenugreek in other form is required
- additional fenugreek is optional, uncertain if minimal pueraria would be a substitution
- other phyto-progestins/estrogens are also optional: shatavari, suma, maca
Whole seed must be chewed, even lightly.
Acne often comes with breast, forehead or armpit warmness. Once temperature cools, which can happen within 10 minutes, you can continue with other parts of the herb schedule, even if acne/pimples haven't fully gone away.
Androgenic signs
Excess arousal may be an androgenic sign, but the body tries to maintain a progestogenic balance during luteal. There's no point in lowering bodily androgens through herbs, but instead to balance hormones around them. When androgenic signs occur during luteal, use the same recommendation for acne.
Androgenic signs during luteal may be the same symptoms for acne as well as breast warmness.
Mixed signs
Swelling and bloating must be lowered gradually through use of:
- 7 sunflower seeds
This must be taken often, until swelling goes down, but no more often than once every hour. This can be taken until an estimated time before estrogenic signs like breast elongation start.
If acne also occurs during swelling and bloating, first, swelling/bloating must be minimized with the recommendation above, before once taking the dose for acne, which is of:
- 1 fenugreek seed
Jumpstarting growth: secretory (within luteal phase)
This part of the herb schedule is being worked out. This is most likely to be recommended limited to early to mid luteal phase, though a few days into luteal phase. Sunflower and sesame amounts were lowered to 2 seeds each since the last recommendation. This may also require the section for anticipation of excessive estrogenic symptoms.
When there's no signs during secretory, after a day into secretory/luteal phase:
- Fenugreek; Pueraria is a possible replacement
- Optional additional phytoprogestin/phytoestrogen: suma, asparagus, maca.
- Optional Thistles
- Primarily phytoprogestin
- 2 sunflower seeds
- 2 sesame seeds
- Combined fenugreek, phytoprogestin/phytoestrogen and thistles must be a few times higher in volume than the combined sunflower and sesame seeds
Primarily phytoprogestin is needed to prevent temporary effects of excessive estrogenic symptoms, and also to help sustain the duration of luteal phase. 6 sunflower and 6 sesame are needed to boost response, however, other herb amounts containing phytoestrogens must be high enough. The best phytoestrogens to use are those which also contain phytoprogestin properties. Use a minimum of 1 fenugreek seed or 1 capsule, however make up for the rest of phytoprogestin/phytoestrogens. Fenugreek and possibly Pueraria have phytoestrogens specific to ERα This is to jumpstart growth.
If you don't have fenugreek or pueraria, minimal hops with a good amount of another phyto-progestin/phytoestrogen can be substituted.
If you don't have fenugreek or pueraria, minimal hops with a good amount of another phyto-progestin/phytoestrogen can be substituted.
Then, use the recommendation for excessive estrogenic signs throughout the day as many times as you want, which involves taking primarily progestins by themselves. Don't repeat this jumpstart dose until estrogenic symptoms go down
Potential variations
If you've had a history of hormone imbalances, avoid variations with fennel. When there's swelling or bloating, avoid hops, thistles and clover.
Variation with hops
For early secretory phase, after growth from a first dose, hops can be used with the rest of the recommendation for when there's acne. Use with hops needs fenugreek, pueraria, or shatavari. Less than 6 seeds each of sesame and sunflower are optional to take with this when there's acne for this phase.
When there's no acne, hops requires sesame, because both of these have the corresponding effects on ERα, and sunflower.
A hops barley drink could possibly be taken to replace hops and sunflower seed here. This is intended for > 1 fenugreek seed on the side. Possibly 6 sesame seeds could be used on the side. This would be the only time of the herb schedule where a hops/barley drink may be beneficial to the herb schedule.
Hops should be avoided for premenstrual phase, and during breast soreness, swelling or bloating.
Theory use with thistles
Thistles' estrogenic effects last for days on ERβ, which the body starts producing estrogen.
Minimal thistles could replace hops, if hops isn't available. Thistles requires minimal sunflower seed. Fenugreek is optional, but recommended. Thistles contains phytoprogestins as well.
Thistles should be avoided for premenstrual phase, and during breast soreness, swelling or bloating.
Theory on fennel
Fennel may want to be avoided for those with past hormone imbalances. The best time to use minimal fennel is when there's no acne, bloating or breast swelling during luteal phase. Avoid fennel for this phase if any metabolic food will be used.
1 fennel seed can be added to primarily phyto-progestins. These phyto-progestins can be added to the recommendation with hops and thistles above. Fennel can only be used when there's no swelling/bloating or acne.
Premenstrual
A lot of premenstrual symptoms are consistent with when bloating occurs. Breast shape of a lightbulb or pear may be considered as breast swelling.
Herbs/foods and substitutions
Sunflower seed can be replaced by barley, pumpkin seed and perhaps rye seed. However, the correct amounts of those substitutes to be used still has to be discovered and adjusted. Sunflower is helpful for increasing estrogen response of the reproductive tract, and for maintaining proliferative phase.
This herb schedule will use phytoprogestin herbs that have insignificant amounts of phytoestrogens: primarily phyto-progestins. Depending on symptoms, these will be compatible for proliferative phase, luteal phase and BCP use. Primarily phytoprogestin herbs and foods which can be used interchangeably include:
- walnuts (or natural walnut butter)
- saw palmetto
- wild yam powder (in powder, including capsule, form because this is too hard for chewing)
- olive oil
- coconut
Derivatives of these must be natural and lack artificial ingredients and hydrogenated oils.
There are other phytoprogestin herbs and foods, but they have significant amounts of phytoestrogens or other hormonal properties as well, so they won't be considered primarily phytoprogestogenic for the purposes of this website. Minimal fennel can be used to supplement primarily phytoprogestins for those who haven't had a history of hormonal imbalances. Fenugreek isn't an interchangable substitute because of its additional estrogenic properties.
Phytoprogestin herbs with significant amounts of phytoestrogens include:
- fenugreek
- shatavari (or other asparagus)
- maca
- pueraria
These are limited for use to luteal phase for specific symptoms. These are similar, but may have minor differences in limited specific actions. These are optional in this herb program. There\'s limited times these can be used for luteal.
It\'s important to eat dietary fiber. Up to 1,000mg daily of vitamin C supplementation can be used on any day for any symptom, though its use is especially useful for when there\'s breast swelling regardless of other signs.
Other herbs/foods will be discussed in other sections below.
Avoid
Metabolic edibles (foods, beverages, supplements and spices) seemed to interfere with estrogen production, which has usually caused setbacks, especially for this phase. It is important that metabolic edibles don\'t interfere with these doses.
Significantly estrogenic herbs need to be avoided for proliferative phase and for transition times between phases. In other words, these herbs are limited to luteal phase in this herb schedule. Hops, dill, thistles and clover are strongly estrogenic herbs. Fenugreek and pueraria aren\'t as estrogenic, but their phytoestrogen is enough that they aren\'t expected to work well during proliferative phase. If foods with phytoestrogens are used, their use needs to be minimized for proliferative. should especially be avoided for proliferative phase.
Possible topical use
Topical estrogen isn't recommended. Eating 1 fenugreek seed is safer, and better serves this purpose.
It may be better to not use topical oils or creams on the hips, because phytohormones would have to provide antagonism not only for the surface, but equally within the body for health.
Avoid topical oils for premenstrual phase of luteal. Topical use would only be limited to secretory phase, after the first tea causes breast swelling. Oils would have to be used for the same signs that either edible progestins or lignans are used. Temperature of lower and upper body would have to be monitored, to see if it stays. Signs of hips and bust must be observed, and that they aren't only fluctuations. Stop using topicals, when there are signs of acne and bloating, then revert to a proven herb schedule when you're certain it is this phase and of hormonal signs.
Topical flaxseed oil can possibly be used on the bust when there's breast widening during secretory phase only.
Unrefined olive or coconut oil can possibly be used topically on the bust when there's breast elongation for this phase.
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