Non-menses herbal breast enlargement program for proliferative, luteal, BCP
Program
This is the herb schedule for when there's no menses. It applies for proliferative phase, luteal phase, BCP (birth control pill) use and IUD (intrauterine device) use. It was simplified in terms of finding common recommendations that cause growth regardless of phase, so long as it's outside of menses.
For a description of phases, which may be needed when there's variations in the herb schedule, see menstrual phases. A separate herb schedule is meant for menses. For examples from past programs which used BCP or an IUD, see: BCP01.
Signs of acne, mucus, swelling, temporary growth, change in upper body temperature or change in lower body temperature are indications that a herb/seed/food containing phytohormone properties had a short term effect, aside from the body's natural ability.
For reproductive health, hips should grow without fluctuating so much afterwards, or remain the same. Body temperature of upper and lower body also indicative of reproductive health. It's important to be aware of hormonal signs.
About swelling
Recognizing swelling is important for this program, as swelling has to be reduced or insignifant for growth to continue. Swelling includes swelling or bloating of any part of the body, including face, breasts, nipples, areolas, belly and feet. For examples of breast swelling, breast swelling shape and other bodily bloating: appendix/swelling-bloating. Breast swelling is a different sign than breast widening.
Hip and butt growth
To focus on hip and butt growth, use the same herb schedule for breast growth. Too much sunflower can cause excess estrogenic signs, so the amount of sunflower can be lowered if needed.
This herb schedule and that for hip and butt growth are of interest for hormone imbalances, including hirsutism. Keep track of body signs throughout.
Herbs/foods and substitutions
Sunflower seed can be replaced by barley, pumpkin seed and perhaps rye seed. However, the correct amounts of those substitutes to be used still has to be discovered and adjusted. Sunflower is helpful for increasing estrogen response of the reproductive tract, and for maintaining proliferative phase.
This herb schedule will use phytoprogestin herbs that have insignificant amounts of phytoestrogens. Depending on symptoms, these will be compatible for proliferative phase, luteal phase and BCP use. Primarily phytoprogestin herbs and foods which can be used interchangeably include:
- peanuts (or natural peanut butter)
- walnuts (or natural walnut butter)
- saw palmetto
- wild yam powder (in powder, including capsule, form because this is too hard for chewing)
- olive oil
- coconut oil
Derivatives of these must be natural and lack artificial ingredients and hydrogenated oils.
There are other phytoprogestin herbs and foods, but they have significant amounts of phytoestrogens or other hormonal properties as well, so they won't be considered primarily phytoprogestogenic for the purposes of this website. Fenugreek and fennel aren't recommended as interchangable substitutes because of their additional properties.
Phytoprogestin herbs with significant amounts of phytoestrogens include:
- fenugreek
- shatavari (or other asparagus)
- maca
- pueraria
These are limited for use to luteal phase for specific symptoms. These are similar, but may have minor differences in limited specific actions. These are optional in this herb program. There's limited times these can be used for luteal.
It's important to eat dietary fiber. Up to 1,000mg daily of vitamin C supplementation can be used on any day for any symptom, though its use is especially useful for when there's breast swelling regardless of other signs.
Other herbs/foods will be discussed in other sections below.
Avoid
Metabolic edibles (foods, beverages, supplements and spices) seemed to interfere with estrogen production, which has usually caused setbacks, especially for this phase. It is important that metabolic edibles don't interfere with these doses.
Significantly estrogenic herbs need to be avoided for proliferative phase and for transition times between phases. In other words, these herbs are limited to luteal phase in this herb schedule. Hops, dill, thistles and clover are strongly estrogenic herbs. Fenugreek and pueraria aren't as estrogenic, but their phytoestrogen is enough that they aren't expected to work well during proliferative phase. If foods with phytoestrogens are used, their use needs to be minimized for proliferative. should especially be avoided for proliferative phase.
Summary
This program is based on symptoms. Also, this program relies on three primary types of ingredients: sunflower, sesame and a primarily progestin. There's a few proven substitutes for sunflower. There are other herbs, but they're optional and they are limited to different symptoms during luteal phase. In this regard, I thought that this herb schedule was simplified in my mind. It turns out, that this becomes a little more complicated than I anticipated. In retrospect, this is the non-menses herb schedule, but is was temporarily named "simplified".
The image on the right is a crude flow chart of an schedule that's being replaced. It's minimized here, but can be viewed in higher detail.
Swelling and bloating
This is for swelling or bloating for nonmenses, which includes proliferative and luteal phases.
When any swelling or swelling shape occurs including bloating, eat:
- 8 sunflower seeds, no sooner than every 10 minutes
- vitamin C supplement up to 1,000mg daily (optional but recommended)
There may be swelling at the beginning of phases, if this is the case, this suggestion is applicable for lowering it.
If there's swelling with other symptoms (like acne, pimples, breast tingling or premenstrual signs), check to see if breasts are warm and hips are cool. Warmer upper body temperature along with breast tingling often indicates that shrinkage will occur. These signs and temperatures are common during premenstrual and premenstrual symptoms. These temperatures can also possibly occur around ovulation.
Proliferative phase
When there's acne for proliferative phase, eat:
- 15 sunflower seeds
- 5 sesame seeds
When there's acne, upper body temperature may be warmer. Once the upper body cools, the recommendation for not having acne can be taken, before acne clears up completely.
When acne occurs from taking sunflower (with or without sesame), and without a phytoprogestin, that may be an indication that luteal phase has begun.
When there's no acne and no swelling for proliferative phase, eat:
- primarily progestin
Avoid strong phytoestrogens for proliferative phase, including: hops, thistles and clover. Herbs containing phytoestrogens and phytoprogestins like fenugreek can only be used at the beginning of proliferative phase in minimal amounts, if there's no swelling, and when there's no mucus.
Luteal phase
When there's no swelling or bloating for luteal phase, eat:
- 15 sunflower seeds
- 5 sesame seeds
- 1 fenugreek seed (unsure at the moment if any primarily progestin or fenugreek substitute can replace this for these signs) this one may be optional
If sesame and sunflower cause acne, it may be luteal phase. A primarily progestin can possibly be added here. A fenugreek substitute could be tried here.
Fenugreek can likely be replaced with similar herbs or primarily phytoprogestin herbs. Hops can likely be used with those other phytoprogestin herbs to complete the needed properties, if fenugreek isn't available.
Hops can likely be taken with one of these combination. It has been taken with similar combinations in the past with success during luteal, when there was acne.
Additional information
This section has different recommendations for proliferative and luteal phases, so the resource menstrual phases may be needed to help determine these phases. As a reminder, these recommendations are for use outside of menses.
There's also more differences of this for proliferative and luteal phases. Dietary fiber which doesn't have strong hormonal properties, such as apples or 1/4 cup of brown rice, can also be used to lower acne.
Acne and other signs may stay longer than indications of breast warming. So continue with the herb schedule depending on breast and hip temperature, than those specific signs.
There may be similar symptoms or combined symptoms which aren't of those below, and the recommendation for those aren't complete at this time. These recommendations aren't for breast or other bodily swelling. Also, this section's suggestions aren't for premenstrual symptoms.
Other signs
Androgenic sign of excess libido
The herb schedule may take care of this by balancing progestins and estrogens around androgens.
Areola massage can be used for the androgenic (testosterone) sign of excess arousal. Still need to determine ideal herbal combination for this. It may depend on other signs. This symptom may be common with acne as it's an androgenic symptom. Those recommendations may take care of this symptom.
Transition times
Signs that ovulation has occurred: abdominal sensations; when sunflower without phytoprogestin causes acne; mucus has changed or when temperature increased a day after taking a phytoprogestin herb. The previous suggestion was to lower amounts of sunflower seed to 2 seeds at a time for swelling. In an attempt to simplify this, this suggestion was removed.
Cases
For someone at the beginning of proliferative phase, there was difficulty balancing hormones and starting breast growth. Sunflower wasn't causing breast growth while there was breast puffiness. There was also acne during when there was puffiness.
The recommendation for when there's bloating/swelling/puffiness has been updated: to take 8 sunflower seeds when there's swelling/puffiness/bloating often, but no more than once every 10 minutes, until hip or breast growth occurs. When there's acne together with swelling/bloating/puffiness: 5 sesame seeds which requires 15 sunflower seeds can be used sporadically.
About other herbs/foods/supplements
Fenugreek
Fenugreek is a phytoprogestin which is also estrogenic, so for proliferative, it only can work on the first day, and it doesn't work as consistently as primarily phytoprogestin foods/herbs. There are other herbs like fenugreek, and some may fall on the range between fenugreek and primarily phytoprogestin herbs. Primarily phytoprogestin herbs work more consistently with this herb schedule through proliferative phase, luteal phase and BCP use.
Fenugreek use once meant for the first day of proliferative phase was replaced with a primarily phytoprogestin, because these have a better proportion of the needed properties, and can to be used throughout this phase. As a result, the herb schedule is more consistent and there's also less guesswork for the beginning of proliferative.
Fennel
Fennel is another herb which is strongly a phytoprogestin, but it won't be considered a primarily phytoprogestin for this website. It also has other hormonal properties of raising FSH, which is not wanted due to potential egg release, and this may not be sustainable for reproductive health. If fennel were to be used, it would be limited to luteal phase, and it should be avoided for anyone who had a past history of hormone imbalances. It is important that there's an indication of mucus (which shows evidence of estrogen production by the follicle) before trying fennel during luteal. Too much fennel, even ½ seed at a time, can cause menses to restart. Fennel seed must be used in a minimal amount at a time. Partition a tea that includes 1 fennel for several uses. For instance, a cup of tea made with 1 fennel seed would be taken a sip at a time for a few days. The idea was to take as little fennel as possible, and to make the most gains with the right proportion of other herbs and the body's hormone balance. A previous suggestion had adding ½ fennel seed to the first tea of proliferative, if this tea was missed on the first day of this phase. The fennel seed would have been cut in half for use in the tea, if it could be done so safely.
Other lignans
Flax seed likely contains different phytohormones than sunflower, so the amount needed may be more difficult to determine. While flaxseed can be eaten, it's hard on the teeth.
Lavender contains lignans that work as sunflower, but the amounts needed for use may be difficult to determine. This can potentially be limited to teas of a sip at a time during swelling for luteal phase.
About topical substances
If you've had hormone imbalances in the past, avoid topical oils.
Use of topical flaxseed or sunflower oil could possibly cause an imbalance. Edible sunflower seeds in small amounts is plenty.
Avoid topical estrogen and sesame seed oil.
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