Hops based herbal breast enlargement program
fenugreek, spearmint, hops, lignan
This is a composite herb program without current BCP use for starting [natural] breast sizes from B to E, until G. Programs that continue on can offer updates or continue on under a separate program. This program is also descriptive of those without major hormone imbalances, and of those not underweight. These themes will be addressed by other herbal, including hirsutism and composite, programs.
This program only focuses on the herbs: spearmint (or peppermint), hops, fenugreek, lignan seeds, and only for proliferative, fennel. Spearmint is preferred over peppermint. Programs with other themes of herb combinations will be in other composite programs.
A seed containing lignans or a lignan seed includes sunflower, barley, rye, pumpkin, sesame or flax. Flax seed is more powerful, so herb program should start out with other lignan seeds, for menses and premenstrual phases. Usually the measurement of 1 seed will be used, except for a sesame seed, which may be too small an amount.
A minimal and each 1 part amount amount will be 1 whole seed, or an equivalent amount to 1 fenugreek or barley seed.
The amount of spearmint is now reduced to about a ½ rice-grain size. Its use is now limited to the first (perhaps first working) teas of menses, proliferative and secretory phases, and perhaps to other times during secretory phase. After that tea, spearmint can be replaced by ½ peasize or more of sesame seed.
At times, both minimal amounts of sesame and fennel may be needed to replace spearmint.
This herb schedule is outdated and is for archival purposes. Please see, the program: simplified. It has replaced the programs: proliferative, luteal and BCP01. Menses is a herb program for normalizing menses and alleviating symptoms. To determine when to use parts of these herb schedules, please see: menstrual phases.
For further introduction on starting a herbal program, please see: guide. For information and programs on hirsutism, please also see: hirsutism-topic.
Anon08 is the latest program with pictures of breast growth.
Menses
Hops has been no longer recommended for menses (same for thistles).
Menses is the new herb schedule. The one below is outdated, and is for archival purposes. Minimal amounts of sesame seed replaced spearmint. Fennel isn't recommended for this phase any more.
Tea for only first day of menses:
1 seed/minimal amounts each of: fenugreek, spearmint, sunflower, hops
Then take a break for rest of menses.
There's only 1 herb dose to take for the first or maybe second day of menstruation, that cannot be taken later than any hormonal supplement. Then, take a break for the rest of menses, unless hormone balance is needed. Massage breasts and eat apples if menses is heavy or prolonged.
Tea of: 2 fenugreek seeds, minimal spearmint, varying hops and 1 lignan [sunflower/barley] seed.
Fenugreek can be lowered to 1 seed for the first dose. The amount of hops should be about equal to fenugreek or minimal.
For the rest of menses, it's likely that tea of minimal fenugreek, spearmint and sunflower can be repeated without hops, when acne starts. Hops is too estrogenic that it seems to impede an estrogenic response from the first successful herb dose which causes breast and hip growth.
In theory, for a tea of minimal fenugreek, spearmint and sunflower without hops to be repeated when acne starts or when breast growth stops, it would have to be repeated when or if acne occurs until the start of proliferative. It's better to not take another herb dose than the first one for menses for now.
Hops and fenugreek amounts may be raised together for menses, but not too high. For each person, the right amount must be seen cautiously. Spearmint amounts should stay minimal.
Minimal and about equal parts each of fenugreek, spearmint, sunflower and hops works consistently to cause bust and hip growth for those with low estrogen balance or low body weight when used for the first dose of menses.
For those with more estrogen balance or higher body weight, this doesn't consistently cause breast growth when used for the first dose. It hasn't caused noticeable breast shrinkage either. In theory, the amount of fenugreek can be raised to 4 seeds. The amount of hops needs to be less than fenugreek, but equal to or a bit more than either spearmint and sunflower.
A herbal tea that was used as the second herb dose has caused breast enhancement for menses. Consistently, this was without hops, and more often with lavender. So far, this was only tried with fennel included. Fennel should be able to be removed from this herbal tea, and in theory should cause bust enhancement. This second dose shouldn't be tried for those with a history of hormone imbalances, and it could cause menstrual irregularity. This proposed theoretical tea for the second herbal tea of menses consists of: 2 to 4 fenugreek seeds, 1 sunflower seed, minimal spearmint and minimal lavender. Minimal wild yam has worked with a variant of this. The suspected reason that hops doesn't cause breast growth when used a second time during menses, is that hops is highly estrogenic, and the first herbal dose caused the breasts to produce estrogen, similar to why hops and estrogenic herbs don't cause growth during proliferative phase. As the body [becomes] more estrogenic after the first herb dose, lavender can work more consistently here, unlike when used with the first herbal tea.
Use 1 barley seed instead of sunflower for the first tea of menses, as it's easier to measure to get a better proportion. For the simpliest schedule, stay with only using 1 tea for the beginning of menses.
For the first tea of menses, 3 to 5 fenugreek seeds can be used. Sunflower or barley should be limited to 1 seed. Sesame should be about 10 seeds. Hops should be minimal. The amount of fenugreek should be higher than the rest of the herbs combined. For the rest of menses, take a break.
Because spearmint was removed, ½ fennel seed can likely replace it. Fennel should not be used past the first day of menses. Past the second day of menses, phytoprogestin containing herbs should likely be avoided. Teas after the first day of menses are primarily intended to be used one last time to lower menstruation intensity if it is high. Perhaps, only tea of minimal spearmint, sesame and hops can be used past the second day of menses, for the purpose of lowering menstruation intensity, only if it is too high. The first tea of menses consists of minimal: hops, sesame and sunflower. Perhaps ½ fennel seed can be used with this. Sesame and fennel are intended to replace spearmint here.
Proliferative
For all of proliferative: thistles, clover, hops and likely pueraria can't be used, because they are primarily estrogenic.
Fenugreek is also estrogenic, but it has just the right balance of progestogenic properties to be used on the first day of proliferative, before mucus starts.
See proliferative for the herb program of this phase.
Take a break for ovulation.
Luteal
Luteal is the new herb schedule. The one below is outdated, and is for archival purposes. Minimal amounts of sesame seed replaced spearmint. Hops is also only used once for this phase. The luteal herb schedule is more consistent for growth.
Secretory
Tea for only first day of secretory phase:
- 1 seed/minimal amounts each of: fenugreek, spearmint, sunflower, hops
The first day of secretory will include a minimal amount each of: fenugreek, spearmint, hops and a lignan [sunflower] seed.
The rest of the teas for secretory aren't fully determined. Here's the preliminary herb schedule, about once per day, a day after the first tea.
- minimal: spearmint
2 seeds: sunflower2 parts: hopsgradually increasesunflowerand hops only to 5 partsonly add 1fenugreek seed, if there's acne.
For the second tea of secretory, it seems that, either hops or fenugreek should be used, but not both. Using both together during secretory, often causes fluctuations in breast size: first an increase, then a decrease. This temporary result easily misleads. This is different than the first tea of secretory. The first tea of secretory still consists of minimal amounts each of: fenugreek, spearmint, sunflower and hops.
For the first tea of secretory, hops shouldn't be higher than fenugreek. Hops and fenugreek worked best together when they were in equal amounts. It's likely that fenugreek should be higher than hops for the first tea. Minimal thistles would likely require additional fenugreek.
The rest of secretory would likely require minimal or no hops and thistles compared to fenugreek.
Amounts of hops should be minimal. Minimal hops can be used for the first tea of secretory and when there's acne. Hops can be used other times for secretory, but growth may not be as much from this. It's uncertain if minimal spearmint is still needed with this first tea with hops. Sesame definitely replaces spearmint when hops isn't used. From this, spearmint can be limited to the first day to an amount of about half a rice-size.
A tea of 1,000mg of wild yam, 250mg of sesame seeds, 3 fenugreek seeds and minimal each of hops, sunflower seed and spearmint caused major breast growth during secretory, especially in wideness. This herb proportion was according to theory. This was taken randomly, and wasn't timed to acne or other signs.
The theory was, that during secretory, hops should remain low, because it sensitizes progesterone receptors (PR), and progesterone and phyto-progestin must be higher. Progesterone breaks down, but the body is capable of producing progesterone during secretory as that happens. The body is more capable of balancing hormones for this phase, also due to estrogen production. Sesame seed is to sensitize ER-alpha in the breasts. Minimal sunflower helps keep the body sensitive to levels of estrogen during secretory.
Perhaps saw palmetto can substitute wild yam for this phase, for those who have difficulty finding wild yam. Saw palmetto doesn't work well during proliferative, because it causes conversion into estrogen too quickly causing breast size fluctuations, and hormone fluctuations. During secretory, the body is able to produce both estrogen and progesterone, which offers some balance.
The use of hops will be more limited. It will be included for the second tea of secretory, and limited to once every few days when there's acne. Hops shouldn't be used with thistles.
Tea of fenugreek, and minimal sunflower and sesame work when there's acne during secretory phase. When there's not acne, this tea often cause temporary growth. Hops can be used when there's acne as well, but perhaps will work more consistencly with ½ fennel seed.
In theory, ½ fennel seed should be used with these teas, when there's no acne. This could perhaps be used with hops. The removal of spearmint may require both minimal fennel and sesame seed. Fennel has phytohormones like spearmint, but it has phytoprogestin properties which likely counter it. Fennel lacks cyclolariciresinol, which spearmint has, and is likely an ERα antagonist.
Fennel is often too strong, that it can cause menses to restart.
Minimal spearmint has worked more consistently than fennel. When spearmint is needed, amounts of it should remain minimal, while sesame should make up for the rest, when needed. When there's acne, spearmint can likely be omitted, and minimal sesame can be used.
Premenstrual
Tea of 1 fenugreek seed, 1 sunflower seed and minimal spearmint. Additional fenugreek depending on body weight and the body's hormone composition. Perhaps minimal wild yam. Repeated tea when there's acne. The efficacy of this herbal tea for premenstrual still needs to be confirmed.
To see if the right amount of sesame seeds can replace spearmint for this phase. In theory, a few fenugreek seeds, 1 sunflower seed, and sesame seeds equal to the amount of 1 sunflower seed. Repeated when there's acne. Hops and thistles are to be left off.
Fennel, hops and thistles should likely be avoided for late premenstrual phase. Mint should also be avoided for late of this phase.
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